Honi soit qui mal y pense.

There is a LOT of flak against immigration. I’ve been thinking about it.

I’m the son of immigrants… My parents came here in 1960. They came here to find work – like many tens of thousands of other from their country. They came to take ‘jobs from people’ here (as the right-wing press puts it), though that wasn’t their prime intention. And my father found work… He worked for the railways, eventually he worked for the post office –a job he kept for 35 years until he retired, work which paid his taxes and our bills and provided a roof over our heads that the family still owns.

In Hull, who would we not have had without immigration?
Amy Johnson! Her grandfather came to Hull from Denmark. What of her future had that not happened? A woman who became the first Air Ministry qualified ground engineer, the first pilot ever to fly solo to Australia. Her grandfather set up a fish merchant’s business with a Norwegian called Knudtzon; Andrew Johnson Knudtzon Ltd. (A.J.K.) is still in business in Hull today.

Then there’s Clive Sullivan, a Welsh rugby league player who played for both Hull FC and Hull Kingston Rovers in his career, for Oldham and Doncaster, and captained Great Britain in 1972, a team which won the Rugby League World Cup. Clive Sullivan, born in 1943 (died in 1985) , the first black captain of any British national sporting side. I’m unsure of his family’s origin.

I’m sure we can all think of many more… Maybe we should.

When my father first came to London, and was looking for lodgings, there were signs in the windows. They said “No blacks. No dogs. No Irish.”

My parents are from Ireland.There is a LOT of flak against immigration. I’ve been thinking about it.

I’m the son of immigrants… My parents came here in 1960. They came here to find work – like many tens of thousands of other from their country. They came to take ‘jobs from people’ here (as the right-wing press puts it), though that wasn’t their prime intention. And my father found work… He worked for the railways, eventually he worked for the post office –a job he kept for 35 years until he retired, work which paid his taxes and our bills and provided a roof over our heads that the family still owns.

In Hull, who would we not have had without immigration?
Amy Johnson! Her grandfather came to Hull from Denmark. What of her future had that not happened? A woman who became the first Air Ministry qualified ground engineer, the first pilot ever to fly solo to Australia. Her grandfather set up a fish merchant’s business with a Norwegian called Knudtzon; Andrew Johnson Knudtzon Ltd. (A.J.K.) is still in business in Hull today.

Then there’s Clive Sullivan, a Welsh rugby league player who played for both Hull FC and Hull Kingston Rovers in his career, for Oldham and Doncaster, and captained Great Britain in 1972, a team which won the Rugby League World Cup. Clive Sullivan, born in 1943 (died in 1985) , the first black captain of any British national sporting side. I’m unsure of his family’s origin.

I’m sure we can all think of many more… Maybe we should.

When my father first came to London, and was looking for lodgings, there were signs in the windows. They said “No blacks. No dogs. No Irish.”

My parents are from Ireland.

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5 thoughts on “Honi soit qui mal y pense.

  1. Awful. You would think a green would understand the ideas of overpopulation, competition for resources – but it seems those things don’t count for human primates.
    How can the green left keep saying that there are too many consumers gobbling up resources on this planet, but can’t wait to try and cram a few more million into this already overpopulated patch ? In an economic depression ? Duh ?
    Britain must be the Big Rock Candy mountain, where fountains of everything good litter the land erupting free stuff ?
    Not quite. You’re going to get the land littered in fracking wells, because there are too many people gobbling stuff up, and then there’ll be a load of moaning because of it. Bringing more people in an economic boom time like the 1960’s, (when the population is already starting to show signs of overcrowding), is one thing. This is not a boom time, and therefore is another thing.
    So maybe the idea is that there really is no Limit to Growth, as far as the UK is concerned – but the rest of the world needs a one child policy, or maybe there is an ideological blindness to facts ?
    Amy Johnson is totally irrelevant.

  2. …what’s more, seeing as the prognois for avoiding dual climate and energy catastrophes is pretty dire, why would the green party, in the name of helping humanity, only want to make things worse during what many peak oilers such as Mike Ruppert say will be an enormous die-off ?
    Given that migration is chiefly for economic reasons, that millions of people want that rich UK lifestyle, shouldn’t the green party be encouraging people to stay where they are and stay poor, resorting to a more sustainable lifestyle rather than filling the few remaining industrial jobs in Britain ?
    From an ecological perspective, what’s wrong with Romanians and Bulgarians staying where they are where they won’t consume too much, won’t emit too much carbon, and can be happy and poor ?
    Or does the Gr Pty want them to come over and start using up more precious resources ?

    You can’t have it all ways at once.

    Actually, the EU and it’s open border policies was intended to do just that – make a better pool of cheaper workers for corporations, with less rights, and I don’t see much opposition from the left to this corporate driven immigration policy. Suckers.

  3. You have the solution to this ?

    More than 1,700 people apply for just EIGHT jobs at Costa Coffee shop

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/more-than-1700-people-apply-for-just-eight-jobs-at-costa-coffee-shop-8501329.html

    1,200 people apply for just NINE jobs at new Longwell Green store

    http://www.yatepeople.co.uk/1-200-people-apply-just-jobs-new-Longwell-Green/story-18553736-detail/story.html

    1,200 people scramble for 195 jobs at new Tesco in Glastonbury

    http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/1-200-people-scramble-195-jobs-new-Tesco/story-17179323-detail/story.html

  4. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/oct/23/why-population-growth-costs-the-earth-roger

    “Some people, notably George Monbiot, argue that western over-consumption is the sole culprit, so criticising expanding population means “blaming the victims”. Of course he is right that our self-indulgent lifestyles are grossly inequitable, and must become much more modest – each additional Briton has the carbon footprint of 22 more Malawians, so the 10 million more UK people the ONS projects for 2033 would equate to 220 million more Malawians. But all poor people aspire to become richer; if they succeed, their numbers will matter immensely.””

    22 Malians – how many Malians is a Romanian or Bulgarian the equivalent to whilst in Romania or Bulgaria, and how many Malians worth of growth in consumption do they achieve when they get a job in the UK ?

    I haven’t got those figures to hand, personally.

    As a green party guy, it sounds like you want it all ways

    Denser population which always means more social friction – but you want more social cohesion.

    More left wing society – but you want more ambitious immigrants with aspirational mind sets who want to get ahead of the others. Everyone knows how much better and harder working immigrants are, no ?

    Less resource use – but you want more people to have the opportunity to garner more resources here.

    Less religious tension – but you want more people from countries which have strong religious traditions.

    Less resource war – but you want to grow the population here in a country which gets resources from the middle east.

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